With the Conservatives quietly
considering a proposal to hold up to five regional televised debates
in the upcoming federal election to contrast
Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s experience with rookie Liberal
Leader Justin Trudeau the debate about the debates has started.
Hoping to exploit Trudeau’s shoot-from-the-lip style, some
Conservative insiders believe Harper could benefit from additional
debates.
In my opinion that very much depends upon how much said leaders
(particularly Harper) are held to account for untruths and inaccurate
assertions & allegations. One way to see that such things do not
go unchallenged is to ensure that the “Hardest
Working MP” in the House of Commons is there
to rebut the three traditional debaters. The fact that the 2012
Parliamentarian of the year also happens to be
one
of the Best Orator's according to her
colleagues in the House may well be why none of those three will
commit to insisting that the Green Party Leader participate.
It seems that the Conservatives think they can gain advantage from
extra debates by “exploiting Trudeau’s shoot-from-the-lip style”,
If a politician actually straying from the scripted talking points is
a liability then we have indeed reach a point where truth, openness
and accountability is a victim of political spin. Without becoming
too partisan I can only say this is one reason why Ms May must be
included for she has yet to fall victim to this insidious disease,
not only that but she regularity dispenses an antidote to it. Its
called support for parliamentary democracy and involves fighting
tooth and nail against any who would remove power from our elected
MPs and place it in the hands of one individual and his unelected
office boys. She also recognizes a cheater when she sees one,
something the 'moguls' don’t seem to understand. “Stephen
Harper’s staff took care to print out background notes (something
specifically not allowed during the 2008 debate) on index cards,
but they picked the wrong-sized cards. And no one writes in printer
font. Looking over from my seat, I remember the shock of realizing he
was cheating,”
It seems the Conservatives
and the NDP want many debates, but sources
in both parties say they also want to limit the number of
participants to the “main parties,” believing that the
contrast between Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Liberal Leader Justin
Trudeau and the NDP’s Thomas Mulcair would be sharper without the
three other party leaders on stage. I dont know about that but I am
not sure how much I could take of Mulclair and Harper attacking each
other and Trudeau who I hope will not fall into that trap and instead
stick to a positive message. I do know that if a sitting Leader of a
party with candidates in every province across this country and
support of millions of Canadians is deliberately excluded for a
televised national debate then her fight for democracy has already
taken a mortal blow.
The 'Leaders' would have us believe that such decisions are
entirely up to the 'consortium' of TV moguls however that is not
entirely true as earlier attempts from Ms May to be included in the
debate reveal.
In 2008 Editor-In-Chief of CBC TV News, Tony
Burman, characterized
the debate process as a sham, stating that,
"Some networks worried that adding a fifth leader would make the
debate 'unwatchable' but we all knew that the elephant in the room
was actually living at 24 Sussex Drive. And he – the Prime Minister
– would effectively have veto power. Within days of the [Media
Consortium] meeting, we were privately told by the Conservative
Party representative that Prime Minister Harper would not participate
in the debates if the Green Party leader was there.
In this instance Ms May was eventualy included and “Many
commentators proclaimed May’s debut in the leaders debates to be a
major breakthrough for the party, and were surprised that she proved
to be a strong debater on a wide range of issues.” However in 2011
Harper and the other leaders got their way and the Green Party leader
was excluded with the excuse that “her party did not have
representation in the House of Commons.” That excuse no longer is
available so what excuse do they all have now?
If ANY of those 'leaders or media moguls care one whit for
democracy they will not only 'allow' Elizabeth May to join the debate
but insist right from the start that she do so. Instead
we see this:=
Recently, Mulcair refused to say who should be part of the
debate.
“That is something that is completely left up to the consortium,
and I will follow whatever they decide,”
Trudeau said. “I look forward to having discussions about that
with the consortium of broadcasters as it comes closer to it. Right
now, it’s too early to say who should be in,”
Troy Reeb, the vice-president of news for Shaw Media, said Global
News’ position is that the more debates that can be organized, the
better it is for Canadian democracy.
“If, however, the parties determine, as they have in the past,
that they are unwilling to have their leaders attend multiple
debates,” Reeb said in an email, “then we stand prepared to work
again with other broadcasters to ensure any single English-language
debate reaches the widest audience possible.
“Questions of format and who would be invited would obviously be
up for discussion at that time.”
“who would be invited would obviously be up for discussion at
that time.”
So its NOT just up the the Media but is the subject of
'discussion', come on Trudeau and Mulclair step up and speak out for
democracy and insist upon the debates include all sitting party
leaders (with national support?) participate, we know Harper will
not!
EDIT It is interesting to note in the context of the above that
the CBC (and other TV conglomerates) has
refused to air an advertisement from The
Friends
of Canadian Broadcasting
that is critical of Stephen Harper and his cuts to everything.
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11 comments:
May should be there, period. And, rather than simply answering questions, the leaders should be allowed to really each other.
We'll need a good Speaker of the House, Rural. But I'm sure we can find one.
Presume you meant to say " really DEBATE each other", Owen.
And yes, a strong and principled Speaker of The House would make all the difference.
I forgot the most important, word, Rural -- debate.
But Harper does not even know the word 'Democracy', Owen.
Definiitely May should be there and nobody should have the right to exclude her, but the leaders from the other parties may be somewhat intimidated by her. As to having more debates where they think Harper will shine what a joke. Their overestimating Harper and underestimating Trudeau.
I agree Pamela. Ms May could easily tie them all in knots with her firm grasp of all the issues, it would be particularly interesting to see Harper try and debate her on the subject of out Parliamentary Democracy.
Elizabeth May has been a shameless Liberal poodle, but she has a right to be there.
Used to be she had to get a seat in Parliament before they'd include her. Now she's got one and they're still excluding her? 7% of the electorate, even when they don't have a prayer of their candidate winning, ... the Greens definitely deserve a place at the debate.
4-way debates need a strong, effective moderator (as past 4-way debates have shown) but they're not impossible.
The stakes are high, the country is flirting with disaster if it picks Trudeau or Harper, the debates are Mulcair's way to getting better know by the public, damaging the other two, and showing his vastly greater talent, knowledge, and ability.
So with the stakes so high while it might not be fair, sometimes there are things that are more important then fair, the survival of the nation is at stake, I don't believe she should attend most of the debates.
PS where is the demand that the bloc and that other newer Quebec party get to attend? Because if Emay gets in so will they and then you will have Chaos and very little opportunity for voters to watch and compare the big three parties's leaders which given one of them will end up Prime Minister is not fair to the vast majority of Canadians.
@thwap I have always thought that Steve Pakin has done an excellent job in very difficult circumstances, I hope he is asked to moderate again.
@ Gyor We will have to agree to disagree upon your assertion that excluding an elected leader with support across the country from the debate is democratic. I have no problem with the Block participating in the french debate only but as they only have support in one province that is a compromise at best.
The debates are ALL leaders way to getting better known by the public, and E May has (as her colleagues in the house have indicated) also have great talent, knowledge, and ability.
"...the leaders should be allowed to really each other."
I like Owen's new 'fill-in-the-missing noun' commenting style. Made me laugh. And 'debate' was not my first choice :)
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